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watchmanwakes

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Al Mohler is John Macarthur's very close friend.  He has also for many years been a keynote speaker at Macarthur's Shepherd's Conference.  Years ago I was surprised to find that Mohler was on board with the United Nations agenda through his leadership in two of its NGO's. I've now learned that he is promoting the UN's LGBTQ agenda in the churches.  The following is the opening paragraph of a revealing article written by Rev. Thomas Littleton.  The article exposes Mohler's current agenda to "queer the Christian faith." 

"Few in the Evangelical world are unacquainted with Dr. Albert Mohler. Many view him as one of the last remaining statesmen of the SBC and a champion of Conservative Inerrancy of Scripture and Reformed Theology. Almost all champion him for his historical stand and the salvation of Southern Baptist Theological Seminary many years ago, which meant saving the Southern Baptist Convention from ruin by liberals who were promoting homosexuality, feminism, liberation theology and social justice. It will therefore be hard for some Christians to even consider the possibility that so esteemed a conservative as Albert Mohler is, behind closed doors, training and promoting LGBT activists to infiltrate churches, while in the public eye he professes to uphold the Bible. Mark Twain once said, “Give a man a reputation as an early riser, and he can sleep till noon.” In the case of Dr. Albert Mohler, “Give a minister a reputation as an ultraconservative, and he can advance the liberal agenda with impunity.” Albert Mohler’s reputation of yesteryear does not change the facts of the present, and God does not call for the protection of false teachers."
http://watch-unto-prayer.org/lgbtq-make-gospel-great-again.html
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Unfortunately, these facts proving Al Mohler's true and most evil agenda won't stop the blind pastors from flocking to Macarthur's next Shepherds' Conference where they will again lap up everything he says.
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This article appeared last month in the journal British Church Newspaper:

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Widening rifts in the professing Christian church - 1

U.S.: Baptists and Presbyterians combine to promote ‘LGBT theology’

by a correspondent

The recent headlong rush of British denominations such as the Church of England, the Methodists and the United Reformed Church to embrace ‘homosexual theology’ - the concept of ‘gay Christians - is being mirrored by astonishing developments in the U.S.

Dominations once considered as ‘pure’ purveyors of the historic, Protestant, Reformed faith – such as the Southern Baptist Convention  (SBC) and the Presbyterian Church of America (PCA) - once bastions of the evangelical faith, have slid into encouraging ministry trainees into promoting ‘LGBT theology’.

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In a paper circulated last month by U.S. evangelist Rev Thomas Littleton, he writes: “Major SBC and PCA institutions are now actually training homosexual activists for ministry positions, where they are promoting the inclusion of assorted sexual minorities in churches and even advocating that LGBT people should be a accepted as full church members”. The programme is fully sanctioned and promoted by SBC leader Albert Mohler.

These programmes will be assiduously advocated at the forthcoming ‘Revoice’ conference at St. Louis, Missouri, from 26-28 July, hosted by Memorial Presbyterian Church. In the pre-conference publicity, young SBC & PCA ministers, counsellors and writers, describing themselves as ‘LGBTQ+ Christians’, invite Christians to “Come Belong in a New Conversation – a new kind of conference promoting LGBTQ+, flourishing within the historic Christian tradition”.

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One conference workshop: ‘The Queer Theory – Possibility Models in Queer Theory & Literature’, is described as being “For the sexual minority seeking to submit their lives to Christ”, adding: “Christians have often discarded the virtues of queer culture…what does queer culture and literature have to offer us who follow Christ?”                 

Other workshop titles include: ‘Conversations on empowering the church to embrace the LGBTQ community’, ‘Sexual minorities in ministry’, and ‘Making a church a haven for sexual minorities’. The conference is backed by the U.K. ‘Gay Christian’ group Living Out.

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Tim Keller, Pastor of Redeemer Presbyterian Church in New York, was the main speaker at a recent Living Out conference held in London on 21 June, along with Sam Alberry of The Gospel Coalition  (TGA) who refers to himself as a ‘Same-Sex attracted gay Christian’. Last year Keller and D A Carson, joint founders of TGA, endorsed Gregory Coles’ book ‘Single Gay Christian’. Coles will be a speaker and ‘worship leader’ at the Revoice conference. 

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SBC leader Albert Mohler some years ago issued a public apology to homosexuals, admitting that “Baptists have got it wrong on sexual orientation” and calling an end to ministries which offer counselling to those with same-sex addiction. Presdient of Revoice is Nate Collins, who has graduated with a Master’s and Ph.D. degrees at Albert Mohler’s SMC Theological Seminary. He publicly identifies as a “homosexual Christian with two children in a mixed-orientation marriage”. 

Thomas Littleton concluded his paper: “These people are helping to train, indoctrinate and give degrees to a generation of young sexual minorities eager to make their mark, at the expense of the Church of Jesus Christ…the door is open wide to the next innovative and clever packaging of these perversions”.

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Al Mohler and Tim Keller are like-minded and both members of The Gospel Coalition (L).  It's been shown on this forum that Al Mohler has been training homosexual activists for church ministry positions.  

There is a pro-homosexual organization called Living Out (L). 

"At our Identity in Christ conference with Tim & Kathy Keller in June 2018 we launched our Living Out Church Audit - a tool to help church leadership teams answer this key question: how biblically inclusive is your church? (L)

According to this Living Out Church Audit, Christians can determine how biblically inclusive their church is.  


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Notice statement #7 in the Living Out church audit:

#7--"A godly Christian's sexual orientation would never prevent them from exercising their spiritual gifts or serving in leadership in your church."

So the Tim Keller supported Living Out org. expects churches to allow homosexual members and pastors and it falsely assumes as well that a homosexual would even have a spiritual gift to exercise.  
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And notice statement #9:

"Church family members instinctively share meals, homes, holidays, festivals, money, children with others from different backgrounds and life situations to them."

So this particular audit statement from the Tim Keller supported pro-homosexual, Living Out, even encourages Christians to share their homes and children with homosexuals.  I suppose that Living Out and Tim Keller will deny that in "sharing their children" with homosexuals, Christians will not only be exposing their children to an aberrant and sinful person, but also, quite possibly, to one of the many homosexuals who are pedophiles.
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These impostors like Al Mohler and Tim Keller keep pushing the absurdity that an unrepentant homosexual can be a born again Christian.  Sadly, many Christians believe homosexuals should be welcomed in the churches because they don't read or understand the Word of God.  
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The Rev. Thomas Littleton has exposed this Living Out audit (L).  The following are a couple of his responses:

#5. All in your church are hearing the same call to radical self-sacrifice of themselves in response to God’s giving of himself in Jesus. True / False / Not Sure PROBLEM- In a unified effort to assert that “SSA Christians" are the believers who are living out costly obedience – homosexual desires harbored in the heart of professed Christians are no longer seen as sin but as obedience and the church is compelled to see it as a crown or gift from God. The desired migration of gay activist is then complete. Homosexuality was once viewed as a curse- now as a cross – one day it will be a crown to be celebrated. Biblical Response Proverbs 28:13 those who confess and forsake sin find true mercy. Self identifying by sinful desires is not forsaking sin.

#9. Church family members instinctively share meals, homes, holidays, festivals, money, children with others from different backgrounds and life situations to them. True / False / Not Sure PROBLEM – This narrative would assert that “It takes a Village” is accurate.  It promotes a collectivism as compulsory to expressing Christian Faith and even implies Parents are compelled to “Share their children “with those espousing homosexuality or LGBTQI+ identity.  Tim Keller you are endorsing this? Stay away from our children Mr. Keller. Biblical Response Psalm 127:3-5 Children are a heritage from the Lord for parents. Ephesians 6:1-4 Children are parents responsibility and are to follow parents authority . It does not “Take a gay inclusive  church village “

 

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So, as this relates to MacArthur, we see another layer of the onion has been peeled back.  Counselors at GCC have claimed for decades that their nouthetic counseling can "cure" homosexuality.  One professor at TMC was one that claimed to have been cured and had a wife and kids.  You can see how this creates a huge problem with the current ban on reparative therapy that is being talked about in the state legislature.  If this bill passes, there is a huge possibility that GCC and TMU, and any other entity related to MacArthur's empire, will lose tax exempt status.

What I can see happening if this bill passes is that every gay person GCC failed to cure will name GCC in the witchunt that will immediately follow.  So, MacArthur will pull out his friendship with this Gospel Coalition with Mohler and Keller and attempt  to show that he is attempting to be more inclusive and accepting of homosexuality.  The policy at GCC on gays will quietly be pushed to the side and the nouthetic counseling program with the reparitive therapy will be shelved.  

However, MacArthur will then be stuck explaining why he left that college coalition over this issue (from the thread on the master's current) and other inconsistencies.  While they may lose a few members they will gain acceptance from more liberals and the gay community, as well as keep the tax exemption.  Avoiding the potential loss of millions of dollars is much more important to them then sticking with any kind of consistent doctrine.
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One more thing, this list they published is a joke.  Why list only one sin with the groups of sinners included in a typical church meeting.  How is having an LGBTQ person any different than having a sinner that commits adultery, gambles, does drugs, cheats, lies, watches porn, etc?  Why are they publishing a list saying we have to treat any one group of people struggling with one sin any more special than anyone else that is struggling with another sin?  Sin is sin and all should be treated equally, there should be no "minorities" in the eyes of God.  

The only item that seems to be headed in the right direction is #4, but all others on the list seem to contradict 4 and are saying we should single them out and treat them differently.  

Also, I agree, the one about children shows further they don't care how children are mistreated.  There are countless stories of boy scout leaders molesting the children in their charge, one person in my family had this happen to them.  They should not be telling us to "share our children" with anybody.  That isn't to say all who teach children in churches are gay, but there should always be supervision.  If someone known to be struggling with this sin asks to lead a young men's group or something that should be a huge red flag, just as if a single man asked to lead a group of teenage girls.  Proper discernment should always be used in these situations without worrying about "offending a minority."  However, if this coalition is like the cult, they care very little about the welfare of children.  This is nothing but fluff to try to appease those that are into this "social gospel."
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