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Believers Fellowship church in San Antonio, Texas is pastored by Bruce Blakey and Chance Hunt.  Blakey received an M. Div and D. Min from Macarthur's Masters Seminary.  He was also a pastor at Macarthur's Grace Community Church.  Chance Hunt also graduated from the Masters Seminary. 

Of interest, Believers Fellowship uses a symbol that is 3 Pyramids.    This is of interest because there is much evidence that John Macarthur is a Freemason.

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Shades Mountain Independent Church is another Macarthur-ite church in Birmingham, Al.  Notice how they have concealed 3 pyramids within their church logo. 


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Not only does the second one hide MacArthur's pyramid logo, but it contains false advertisement as well.  I highly doubt this church is "independent," and raising hands during worship is highly discouraged in this cult, as it makes you look like a "charismatic."
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I confronted Johnnie Mac (in writing) about his hypocrisy in scorning hand-raising in prayer and worship. I am not and never was charismatic, but in 1969, at the age of 15, something traumatic happened, and I went and hid myself and with tears streaming down my face, I raised my shaking hands to heaven and said the first real prayer in my life.  I said, "God, help please."  I had never seen anyone raise their hands in either prayer or worship at that point, but my soul cried out to God, and He heard my prayer.

Little did I dream what had just transpired between me and God, but at that moment the clock began to tick for the 38 year old man who had been tormenting me (and who was the object of that desperate prayer)--and he died 10 days later, in excruciating pain, of a blood clot in his aorta.

 I made (and also sent to John c/o Phil Johnson, whose home address I have) some CD's in which I recorded John's various derisive comments about hand raising and interjected his remarks with Scriptures either commanding us to raise our hands or that record that men like Solomon raised in hands in prayer (as in 1 Kings).  Of course I never heard back, and JMac tries to claim that when the Bible mentions raising hands, it's "a metaphor of a holy life."  

He also claims when the Bible mentions us being saved and cleansed by the blood of Christ, it's a metaphor of death.  John twists Scripture to his own destruction (2 Peter 3:16, and if the NT writers had meant "death" when they wrote "blood," they would have used the Greek word for death ("muth") instead of the Greek word for blood ("haima").
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In the Strange Fire CD's Todd Friel is actually being sarcastic and is on John's side, but he is asking questions of the "Council of Pharisees," (Tom Pennington, Steve Lawson, etc.), as they are scoffing "charismatic behavior." Todd says, "David danced before the Lord, what's wrong with that?"

John answers that all that David was doing was celebrating, that's all.  John missed the whole point, that Michal DESPISED David in her heart when she saw him dance before the Lord, WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT JOHN MACARTHUR DOES!  ("As the ark of the covenant of the Lord was entering the City of David, Michal daughter of King Saul watched from a window.  AND WHEN SHE SAW KING DAVID DANCING AND CELEBRATING, SHE DESPISED HIM IN HER HEART." 2 Sam. 6:16; 1 Chron. 15:29).

On the CD I made I recorded that exchange from the Strange Fire CD, then interjected it with the above Scripture, followed by the Steven Curtis Chapman song, "Lord of the Dance."  I'll post the link for that song here in hopes it will work.  Whether John MacArthur and his cronies like it or not, whether it fits their tidy little Baptist Calvinist Dispensationalist Paradigm or not, our Lord is "Lord of the Dance," and someday I'm not ashamed to tell all of them I'll be dancing in heaven with Him!  www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_MQxAd16k.

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Bruce Blakey is Billy Blakey's father.  Billy Blakey was up until this past year the new Youth Pastor at Lakeside Bible Church in Montgomery Texas where Ken Ramey is the current Pastor.  It should be interesting to note that Billy Blakey lasted less than 2 years after replacing Adam Tyson who by the way is the current head Pastor at Placerita Bible Church in California.  I also found out that Ken Ramey relayed to other members and I quote  " don't worry about Billy Blakey, we finally got rid of him"! I wonder why Ken Ramey would make such a statement?  This is not the first time that he has revealed his true feelings about members in his church!  There is a single divorced woman with children who attend LBC  where Ken has revealed disdain towards her and looks down on her.  He has again made his true feelings known to others about certain members of his own church! So, it's not difficult to believe that he might have ill feelings towards Billy Blakey.  It's not normal for a person to accept a Youth Pastor position , uproot his family from California, and purchase a house in Walden just to up and leave  in less than two years to go to one of his brothers church back in California.  It doesn't make sense.  These connections mean something and the watchman here has been exposing these connections.  It's also interesting to note that another of Bruce Blakey's son's started off at Lakeside Bible Church before going to The Master's Seminary he met his wife at LBC and pastors a church.  Tim Drumm did this met his wife at LBC went to the Master's Seminary and left LBC to go to Adam Tyson's church or a church in that area.  Adam Tyson and Lisa met at LBC married he went to The Master's Seminary he was the Youth Pastor at LBC for years and now is in his own church.  These guys stay connected for a reason.  They train at each other's churches and either go into like minded churches or take over congregational rule churches.  Read about Walden Community Church and the church in Italy.  These Symbols mean something and it appears very sinister.  Shannon Hurley is a seminary graduate he runs the Uganda SOS he is married to Lisa Tyson's sister his father in law is on the board along with other LBC men.  Vie Mixon is an intricate part of LBC and is on the board as an accountant.  I noticed that several J.M. churches provide financial support for Shannon Hurley's SOS ministry.  I thought when you became a missionary that you raised support but how many churches does it take to support one family?  I remember growing up that it usually was one church or organization that provided your support.  Does that seem odd or am I wrong here?  I'm just wondering and maybe someone here can clear it up for me if i'm misreading this or prejudging him.  My interactions with Shannon have been pleasant in the past.  He's a very nice man and I have nothing against him but because he to is connected in this network I have to wonder about him as well.  These men teach a destructive theology but it also go's along with their methods of take overs which I find offensive and so ungodly.  Again my opinion but as I check out these names they all are connected.  I hope this makes sense.
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Shannon called his ministry SoS? I see he's giving a little nod to his time at tmc. SoS was a small group ministry ran out of Canyon Country that split when one leader had a disagreement with Tatlock. I remember seeing Hurley at the meetings. The group was eventually dissolved, probably so they could better maintain control of college students in that area. I remember it became a problem when members of the opposing faction would crash the other's meetings.
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If I saw that a church or any other organization had this 3 pyramid symbol, then I would assume that their leaders were Freemasons.  And if I was ever asked if this was a Christian symbol, then I would have to answer that it is not a Christian symbol.       


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I believe the Macarthur-ites and their churches are now transitioning to function within the coming communitarian government where these churches will play an important role in being "community" centers and in being welfare distribution centers for the neighborhood.  The "Christians" in the coming New Way will be considered slaves relegated to social work only.  Christians should have been alarmed by Macarthur's recent book, "Slave," in which Macarthur told church members exactly what he and the New Church leaders believe: You Christians are our slaves and you will submit to our orders.  Jesus Christ may have come to set the captives free, but the Wolves have recaptured many of them.  For the true Christian unwilling to adapt to this "new way of doing church": there may be a locker in a Reeducation Camp with your name on it...
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If I saw that a church or any other organization had this 3 pyramid symbol, then I would assume that their leaders were Freemasons.  And if I was ever asked if this was a Christian symbol, then I would have to answer that it is not a Christian symbol.       


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I guess we already know this, but it bears repeating that the leaders of the Macarthur-ite churches are not born again from above.  They are homegrown and trained from within Macarthur's organization.  Macarthur's churches, college, and seminaries produce church leaders cut from the same mold.  They produce cookie cutter Christians who believe the same things and act the same way.  This is the what the church growth movement means by churches that replicate their own DNA.  Macarthur's training grounds are like viral incubators. 
I called this church yesterday and spoke with chance.  I specifically asked about their three triangles in a circle emblem.  he said it was only on one side of the building and that it was a Christian symbol something about King David.  I told him that it is associated with the occult and it was not a symbol of Christ anything.  He said ok, that he would look into it.  I also began asking about their church and by the time I was done he was anxious to get off the phone with me.
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Shannon called his ministry SoS? I see he's giving a little nod to his time at tmc. SoS was a small group ministry ran out of Canyon Country that split when one leader had a disagreement with Tatlock. I remember seeing Hurley at the meetings. The group was eventually dissolved, probably so they could better maintain control of college students in that area. I remember it became a problem when members of the opposing faction would crash the other's meetings.


This certainly is interesting about Shannon Hurley.  Yes his ministry is called SOS just google him and put in SOS you can check out his webiste on it. Seems like another man tightly tied to Ken Ramey is involved in some type of church split.  I noticed this seems to be a trend with them.  Birds of a feather flock together I guess. 
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Shannon called his ministry SoS? I see he's giving a little nod to his time at tmc. SoS was a small group ministry ran out of Canyon Country that split when one leader had a disagreement with Tatlock. I remember seeing Hurley at the meetings. The group was eventually dissolved, probably so they could better maintain control of college students in that area. I remember it became a problem when members of the opposing faction would crash the other's meetings.



bjw, hi i'm curious you seem to know Ramey, shannon, and maybe more who you spent time with at the seminary or in gcc.  Hopefully I didn't get that wrong. Anyways this is such a small world.  I wish I knew these things about them sooner before or shortly after I began attending LBC.  I'm not sure what this all means but I have no doubt that these connections are important in their world for some reason. I haven't quite figured what this all means yet, if it means anything. I guess I will keep digging because now I just have to know.  Thank you by the way for shedding some light on them.  It has been very helpful to me in unraveling some of this.
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Ok, here is what I copied and now what I will paste.  This is Shannon Hurley's ministry history.


History

Founded in 2002, SOS Ministries is a Christian non-profit organization which seeks to provide humanitarian aid and biblical training to all those in need, focusing on the people of Uganda. Shannon Hurley founded SOS Ministries after seeing the overwhelming physical and spiritual needs of the Ugandan people. These needs primarily are a result of the horrific reign of Idi Amin Dada in the 70′s, the devastating results of the AIDS epidemic, and a continued culture of poverty, single-parent families, alcoholism, and various parasitic false religions promising wealth and health.
Shannon Hurley was introduced to Uganda in 1995 after traveling to Kenya with a group of ten other volunteers on a short-term missions trip. While in Kenya, he met a Kenyan missionary to Uganda. During this visit Shannon went with ten others through the country of Uganda. This trip made a tremendous impact on Shannon. His heart was moved by the love and joy of the Ugandan people. In January 2002, Shannon returned to the beloved country. The purpose of his visit was to see what opportunities he might have for the future. Consequently, SOS Ministries was born, officially incorporating on July 19, 2002.

“Ever since I went to Uganda in the summer of 1995, I have had
a deep inescapable love for the people of Uganda.”
Shannon Hurley,
Founder of SOS Ministries

In 2002, Shannon graduated from The Masters Seminary and in early 2006 relocated his family to Uganda to more effectively serve the people. Initially operating a Christ-focused orphanage in the Kampala suburb of Mukono, Shannon became increasingly convinced that God had other plans for his ministry, as He opened a door to strengthen the Church through Biblical Training. In early 2009, As Shannon’s Biblical Training ministry continued to expand to meet the great need for clear teaching and training (Hosea 4:6), Shannon relocated the ministry to Luweero, two hours north of Kampala in a remote jungle. From this base, SOS could be among the people and pastors they desire to impact.
Since arriving in Luweero, SOS Ministries has grown from a staff of 5 to over 20 full-time staff, and its national training ministry continues to grow, reaching now into Kenya. In July 2012, SOS celebrated its 10th Anniversary.



SOS Uganda is supported through a broad network of churches, like-minded organizations and individuals that have determined to partner with SOS Uganda through prayer, service and financial support. In the USA and Canada, this support is under the direction of the SOS USA/Canada Board of Directors, jointly representing Sufficiency of Scriptures Ministries, Inc. ("SOS USA", incorporated in the State of Texas as a 501(c)(3), EIN #30-0127524) and Sufficiency of Scripture Ministries (Canada) ("SOS Canada", registered as a non-profit, Business Number 83603 5964 RR0001).  
SOS USA/Canada exists solely for the support of the SOS Uganda ministry. Nearly 100% of all proceeds received by SOS USA/Canada go directly to SOS Uganda, with the exception of a nominal amount to cover incidental administrative costs and bi-annual Board meetings (less than 5%). This is made possible by an all-volunteer staff, and extraordinary financial and in-kind support of SOS through donated time, materials, and supplies, as well as most incidental costs born by SOS USA/Canada supporters, staff and Board members.
SOS USA/Canada Board of Directors
The SOS USA/Canada Board of Directors is comprised of men of integrity and passion for the ministry of SOS Uganda. The Board works closely with SOS Ministries founder Shannon Hurley in providing strategic guidance, partner development, supporter communications, and logistics support such as short-term missions teams, website, and newsletters.
Dr. Shannon Hurley, President, SOS USA/Canada
Founder, SOS Ministries
Dan Dumas, Chairman of the Board
Senior Vice President, Southern Baptist Theological Seminary
Lousville, KY
Dr. Scott Ardavanis, Vice Chairman
Senior Pastor, Grace Church of the Valley,
Kingsburg, CA
Del Seehusen, Vice President
Lakeside Bible Church, Montgomery, TX
Russ Collins, Treasurer
Elder, Grace Bible Church, Grapevine, TX
Kevin Thomas, Secretary, Executive Director
Faith Bible Church, Murrieta, CA
Timothy Borruel, Board Member
Elder, Placerita Baptist Church, Santa Clarita, CA
Founder, Legacy Christian Academy, Santa Clarita, CA
Brad Bundy, Board Member, Lakeside Bible Church, Montgomery, TX
Darcy Derkson, Board Member, Whitecourt, Alberta, Canada
Eugene Derkson, Board Member, Calgary, Canada
Dr. Adam Tyson, Board Member, Pastor, Placerita Baptist Church, Santa Clarita, CA
SOS USA/Canada Staff
Vie Mixon, CPA (http://www.viemixoncpa.com)
Sandra Derkson, Financial Administration
Jini Keasling, Graphic Artist
Covenant Printing, Montgomery, Texas (http://www.covenantprinting.com)


I'm curious why Shannon has not put up that he was in leadership at LBC or where he has served.  Maybe i'm looking in the wrong place.  It's good to note that Adam Tyson is his brother in law.  Adam is married to his wife's sister and their father in law is also on his board.  Del Seehausen is vice president.  Brad Bundy is a deacon at LBC in Montgomery Texas! Vie Mixon is a CPA she also is a member of Lakeside Bible Church in Montgomery.  His connection with Chris Mueller's church as well is interesting given that Christ Mueller was the direct cause of a church split in Washington state.  Also during his time there at Valley Fourth Memorial in Spokane there was a child sex abuse scandal five pastors were named in a lawsuit.  One of those pastor's was a Ken Ramey.  Ken Ramey's wife is from the surrounding area and Ken has had Chris Mueller come speak at LBC.  Now Shannon who ken not only had as a leader in his church but are friends has Chris Mueller's church on his map as a supporting church.  Of course we can't over look Dan Dumas and his connections.  I am focused on these particular men because they all seem to have come up through the seminary together and have been under each other's leadership in other churches prior to stepping out on their own or splitting churches.  I also find it strange that they all are connected.
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Couragehonor,
Hurley more than likely got the idea for the Ugandan ministry in 1995.  All students at TMC have to go on a missions trip every semester.  They tell you it is optional but if you don't go you will be put on the "restoration process," even if you have a good reason.  Students are put into groups, and Hurley was probably put into Uganda by chance.  I'm sure you know by nature of lordship theology, you must constantly put yourself in more and more uncomfortable situations without allowing yourself to rest.  Basically, the more you beat yourself the better.  The Uganda trips are probably a tremendous hardship and is a good proving ground for those trying to do more and more works to earn their assurance of salvation.
Placerita's building that you mention is actually on TMC's campus, and TMS grad Greg Searcy used to be pastor.  Many churches in that area are ran by college and seminary staff as ways to get more practice for the new pastors and elders.  What you are seeing is even further proof it is a denomination, and not "independent" like the ad for the second church watchmanwakes showed claims.
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The symbols posted remind me of this...of all the cults out there they can rip off, not only through symbols but in doctrines and practices...
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That makes sense. I just went to Bruce Blakey's son's churches page and found something disturbing. His church is called Compass Church in California. There is a video on there called Accountabil-A-buddies a Looks like a young adult is doing a bible story.  Anyways he states in the first 7 minutes he states that if these kids hang out with their friends outside the church they are going to hell.  He didn't use those words exactly but WOW these people are bold to say those things. He did say that they would go to hell though if they fell into the wrong crowd even if they professed belief in Christ. Watchman you need to check this church out to, I am going to continue to look.
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Couragehonor,
Hurley more than likely got the idea for the Ugandan ministry in 1995.  All students at TMC have to go on a missions trip every semester.  They tell you it is optional but if you don't go you will be put on the "restoration process," even if you have a good reason.  Students are put into groups, and Hurley was probably put into Uganda by chance.  I'm sure you know by nature of lordship theology, you must constantly put yourself in more and more uncomfortable situations without allowing yourself to rest.  Basically, the more you beat yourself the better.  The Uganda trips are probably a tremendous hardship and is a good proving ground for those trying to do more and more works to earn their assurance of salvation.
Placerita's building that you mention is actually on TMC's campus, and TMS grad Greg Searcy used to be pastor.  Many churches in that area are ran by college and seminary staff as ways to get more practice for the new pastors and elders.  What you are seeing is even further proof it is a denomination, and not "independent" like the ad for the second church watchmanwakes showed claims.[/QUOT

bjw, they sure do like these symbols

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The symbols posted remind me of this...of all the cults out there they can rip off, not only through symbols but in doctrines and practices...
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That first symbol looks like a serpent between the triangles!
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Also I watched a youtube video on an occult/satanic group Anthony Lavay the son of Anton lavay. He said something very disturbing.  He said that during his father's ritual sacrafices that they would draw a circle put a cross in the center.  They would have to break the cross by pulling the sides down from the top therefore turning it into a symbol of the peace sign.  I know this might be a bit off topic but I found that pretty disturbing but makes sense.  These symbols mean something because it's a language that those who identify with Satan speak.  This is why we do see these symbols on churches in churches in the media , and so forth! Please someone correct me if i'm wrong.
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Couragehonor,
The first symbol in blue is the sign of the lower levels of Scientology (Dianetics and Clear) and the second is the sign for the advanced OT levels of Scientology.  Both, according to Hubbard's son, have an origin in OTO, a black magic organization Hubbard was in with Crowley and Parsons.  I've heard people compare the first one to a serpent before too.  More troubling a Christian organization would copy things like this.
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Couragehonor,
The first symbol in blue is the sign of the lower levels of Scientology (Dianetics and Clear) and the second is the sign for the advanced OT levels of Scientology.  Both, according to Hubbard's son, have an origin in OTO, a black magic organization Hubbard was in with Crowley and Parsons.  I've heard people compare the first one to a serpent before too.  More troubling a Christian organization would copy things like this.


Wow bjw, I didn't realize that.  Also it's good to note that those who practice occult magik there a difference in the spelling of it that they use.  For those who practice magic like magic shows they spell it with a C on the end however the research I have done those who practice in the occult the magik you refer to in this case is spelled with a K.  It actually makes this even more scary if you ask me.  I also see on Compass church website they put if you just believe in Jesus you can be saved.  Well satan believes in Jesus but he obviously is not a follower of Christ.  What happened to Romans Road? Romans 3:23, 6:23, 10:8,9, John 3:16 is how I understood the gospel of Christ and came to know him.  It was simple and I repented and put my faith and trust in Jesus Christ.  I noticed these churches have eliminated mentioning Romans road.  They know of it they will say ya we know romans road but it's not in their tracks or even in their bulletins or when they evangelize. The verses they use are correct and similar to Romans but they don't tell you what you need to do to come to know Christ fully. Does this make sense.  I 'm looking at Compass Bible Church now in Huntington beach because it is Bruce Blakey's son and their symbols are just as disturbing as the triangles on his fathers church plus the teaching, oh my word need I say more?
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So Bruce Blakey, a graduate of Macarthur's seminary has this 3 pyramid sign on his church, and now we see that his son, Bobby Blakey, graduate of The Masters College, not only has the 3 pyramid symbol, but has what appears to be a compass and square logo for his church: Compass Bible Church in Huntington Beach. 

The main symbol for Masonry is the Compass and Square.  Below we see the Compass name and forming a right angle below "The Underground" is the square which is below the 3 pyramids.   


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Oh my goodness "watchman" your good....... I would have never picked up on that. 
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Thirty Three is an important number in Freemasonry and I find it of interest that Bobby Blakey's Compass Church has a Sunday School series called The Protestant Reformation: 33 Years that Shook the World.  And why is the number "33" emphasized in such large type below?  


      
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