Registered: 1412728167 Posts: 174
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I wanted to start a separate thread for college students who may have started at TMC thinking it was something that it wasn't, and are getting fed up with some of the bizarre doctrines and practices. Some are wanting to leave but don't know if it will negatively affect their college career or opportunities, so here are some pointers to help those who are wanting to get out but don't know how to go about doing it.
1. FOCUS ON YOUR SCHOOLWORK AND MAKE IT THE PRIORITY OF YOUR REMAINING TIME. Getting a refund is very difficult, so get the best grades you can for your last semester, even for Bible classes. When I transferred out I was able to use Bible classes to fulfill literature classes, electives, and cultural requirements. Also, your GPA will be important later. If any students give you a bad time let them know you are focusing on your academics and need to study.
2. KEEP ALL SCHOOLS RULES FROM THE HANDBOOK AND CONTRACT. Do not do anything to give them an excuse to put you through the Restoration Process or add anything negative to your record. For instance, come in before curfew, don't drink alcohol or smoke, attend any chapel, church, or groups you are required to.
3. ONLY DO THE BARE MINIMUM OF COLLEGE SPIRITUAL ACTIVITIES. Quietly start backing away from non-required small groups, college groups, studies, or accountability groups. If you are a wow staffer you can get out of it by telling the Student Life division you need more time to spend on academics. If a group questions you about spirituality, be as vague as possible with your beliefs, saying something like "I am working on following the Spirit." In Bible courses do the minimum participation in class, and in required groups keep discussion to a minimum. If asked to read and explain, read from the book and give a short, concise response.
4. BUY A BINDER AND ASK THE COLLEGE FINANCIAL AID DEPARTMENT FOR ALL PAPERS YOU SIGNED AND A STATEMENT FOR ALL LOANS AND OTHER AID YOU RECEIVED. This is very important, and even though they may charge you a small fee for this it is worth it. Make copies of each document as well. Call each company asking for how you can get a deferment form, download and print them, and take the forms to your next college since TMC will inform all these companies you no longer go there once gone, its one way they retaliate. So, keep this binder you make handy.
5. DO NOT DO MISSIONS WORK. Missions week and other missions projects are optional. You may just have to say you are declining for personal reasons, but if you tell them you disagree with them they will start the Restoration Process. You should not have to do manual labor for a cause you disagree with, and some of these projects have been dangerous.
6. DO NOT ARGUE WITH OR TRY TO CHANGE OTHER STUDENT'S MINDS ABOUT THE TEACHINGS. This will only get them angry, and there is many more of them than there is you. Also, people under this sort of mind control are often hard to reason with. This is why it is best to keep a low profile during the last semester you are there.
7. DO NOT GO WITH OR MEET OTHER STUDENTS, EVEN IN PUBLIC PLACES. Once you first express disagreement with Lordship Salvation they will start talking to you about personal information in an attempt to start the Restoration Process and get you in total agreement with what they think is the only true Christianity. There is a chance this will just lead to more harassment, them reporting on you, and them later misquoting you or taking things out of context. Sometimes these visits with you will be disguised as dinner, a movie, concert, etc. They have very little free time to spare, so any invitation given you likely has a motive. Also, they may try to use "love bombing" to get you to stay.
8. RESEARCH JUNIOR COLLEGES (IF A LOWER CLASSMAN) AND STATE AND PRIVATE UNIVERSITIES (IF AN UPPER CLASSMAN). Junior colleges are cheap and a great way to get your general education requirements out of the way, and maybe even getting an AA in your core major so you can maybe work part-time while at your later college. Also, time at a junior college will not be reflected on your four year degree, and the education I found was much better and more personal than TMC. Once you find a college, apply even if you are past the deadlines, fill out a new Fafsa form for the schools, and if you have time pick some classes for next semester, or if late just show up on the first day of class, since they often have extra spots to fill. Try to make financial aid counselor and guidance counselor appointments for your new college for once you are there, and give them deferment forms from your financial aid binder mentioned earlier, so you don't have to pay these loans back until you get your degree. (Always do this at every college.)
9. WATCH FOR PRANKS OR RETALIATION. Do not use the college's internal reporting system and restoration process, and unless they do something about it when you report it, if it was harmful go to campus security, and if they don't do anything go to the police. Your safety is important.
10. CALL FAMILY OR FRIENDS FOR HELP. Call your family and ask them if you can live at home during the next semester while you get back on your feet. If they won't help try to find a friend who would let you stay for awhile. Explain what you learned about GCC and TMC. Call your pastor or a leader from your home church and ask them if they know of any churches in southern California that are like your original church. If so, you may be able to attend that church for your church attendance requirement and seek help from the local elders.
11. TAKE ALL YOUR STUFF AT ONCE. After finals week take everything you own in one installment. I know I had theft and vandalism problems once when I made the mistake of leaving things there.
12. FOLLOW ALL THE OTHER PROCEDURES FOR RESIGNING FROM THE CULT FROM THE "RESIGNING FROM GCC" THREAD. None of this was your fault, as this college is usually falsely advertised. Most will be sympathetic, even other colleges, if you explain at least a little of your story.
13. GET TRANSCRIPTS. Get copies sent to yourself as well as each college you are applying for, both before final grades are released as well as after. This is in case a temporary financial hold is put on your account most colleges accept temporary copies, but get as many sealed ones as you can.
14. STAY ENCOURAGED. Know others have has similar experiences, and if the minimal interactions and confrontations have you depressed or stressed out, if you have a car take some time out to get away by catching a movie or some other form of recreation. Don't let it get you down.
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You mention the restoration process at The Masters College and you say that the TMC student should take measures to avoid this process. Am I correct in stating that it is during this process that the student will be subjected to mind controlling tactics? I wonder if you have heard of any other college employing something similar to The Master's College's restoration process. Thanks for giving those pointers to the TMC student who wants out. I know you are speaking from experience and it looks like you did cover all the bases in that list. Of course, if any TMC student wants further counsel, they are more than welcome to ask on this forum.
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This is what makes the college worse than the church in my opinion, when you are living there you are basically a captive audience for them. When you first learn about the restoration process it is spun as making the college less legalistic than any other college since students enforce the rules on each other so the college doesn't have to. However, imagine living in an environment where all those you live around you shun you, and not just members of a church you are going to. It is very intense peer pressure that uses everything GCC does to keep it's flock under control. The college is involved anyway because wow staff report on the students they are assigned to at the weekly meetings. Usually every 4 students in the dorms has one wow staffer living among them, sometimes the number is a little higher if wow staff is having a low year. Also, the third step involves the students that are restoring the student to report to student life. So, it is a mind-control technique that involves spying, deception, and peer pressure to keep you under control. Then, add the church control to this. You are encouraged to be discipled by someone more mature than you are or go to counseling. These are all things they use to get rid of your doubts and keep you doing works.
Originally Posted by
watchmanwakes BJW, You mention the restoration process at The Masters College and you say that the TMC student should take measures to avoid this process. Am I correct in stating that it is during this process that the student will be subjected to mind controlling tactics? I wonder if you have heard of any other college employing something similar to The Master's College's restoration process. Thanks for giving those pointers to the TMC student who wants out. I know you are speaking from experience and it looks like you did cover all the bases in that list. Of course, if any TMC student wants further counsel, they are more than welcome to ask on this forum.
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Not long ago I drove up to the Masters University. It was extremely hot (being in the San Fernendo Valley). It looks nothing like the pictures displayed on the Grace Church website. There is nothing even near the place and it looks like if one was stupid enough to enroll that they would basically be in captivity.